TELAFONICA

I've uploaded another working sketch of the new / temp / whatever it is site here . The animated elements are much slower and more subtle - they're also different in the way they change the image they overlay. I really like this... also how they slowly align if you don't move your mouse. There's no reason why the graphic used couldn't change all the time - not sure if that would be better or not. I've tried to briefly explore how it works with a bunch of different type of images. I've also added a menu to give the site some functionality, so it's not completely 'useless'. This could be as simple or complex as we like. At the moment I've been thinking we'd start simple in order to get it up. One thing I thought would be nice to try would be to add some video. This is amazingly easy in flash these days.

Once I’ve uploaded the in-progress site I’d like to look as you mentioned at the design of this blog before it’s made public. One question is whether blogger is the best we can do for an existing platform. I really just picked it out of the air. It seems fine – but there’s others out there that may be better. I noticed with wordpress that we can set up a flickr stream which could be quite nice. We passed this site around work today where all the content is piped in from wordpress. This kind of thing is exciting because it opens up the potential for people like you and me to run sites which WE design while all the content is managed through an existing – easy to use – automatically maintained database. Whilst myspace is a great tool for networking – it is disgusting to look at and use. It would be nice to send people to a site they can interact with – and we can constantly maintain with living content – including words, pictures and music. I will do some further research. I like you...

i like the designgraphik stuff a lot. what i particularly like, from the showreel attached to the header, is the speed of the movement, which is fairly slow. e-aesthetics have traditionally been built on sensory overload. this shows something i read many years ago about heavy music - the idea that velocity is a matter of mass as well as acceleration. basically the idea that you can be overwhelmed by things other than just the speed of movement/change/sound/images/etc. this stuff has a weight to it that speed would undermine. i like that a lot. i also like the transitions greatly.

I like where you're coming from with the 'brother's keeper' concept. The problem is it will be almost impossible for anyone to hear the title and not think of this . I'm not adverse to the principle of working with / against unexpected connotations... but in this case - I just couldn't cope. I have been working more on the temporary website concept. I had also thought of using some more text throughout - so if you have any particular relevant texts you'd like to include - send it through. I'd also like to get it up pretty much straight away, but not without making something we're happy with! I reckon I'll shoot for this week. Have you seen this before - these guys have done some pretty seminal stuff i guess. In many ways it feels a bit lost in 2001... But I quite like this site none the less. Make sure you click on the header. Here's our notes from the other night: tape noise : bring up voices this is the new thing : muddy kick ...

i like the new web stuff in principle. i do think it needs a slight bit of tweeking in terms of creating greater continuity - the movement of the dots, while i like, get annoying to me fairly quickly, and don't seem to quite be part of the same aesthetic as the images. keep the movement, but slow it right down and animate it rather than randomly positioned dots flickering on and off. and the dots themselves could possibly be played with a bit as well so that they fit with what they're sitting on top of. get it up as soon as you can though, i reckon. i'll post you the ftp details in a private e-mail. i also like the 'i saw this...' (see, i CAN abbreviate) title. i'd like to state a case for 'am i my brother's keeper?' as well, though. i don't know a whole lot about the 'bra boys phenomenon, but it certainly has little to do with it. it's more about asking what is the responsibility of one human to another, and it is what most of th...

I've posted my work from today here. It's basically a sketch of something I'd like to try. I really like the way the image scales with the browser window - it adds a nice element of user control over how the image actually looks. My original idea was that the animated elements would only feature while images are loading, but I quite like the way the flickering colour works with the static images. I could set something like this up so it's easy to update the images... it could work nicely as an ongoing visual diary. thoughts? I'm okay with the whole publicising of the blog, but maybe not immediately - I'll get back to you on that one! The flickr account is a great idea - it's something I too have been thinking of. In fact I set up an account today. I think there is some definite possibility amongst those titles and some I would rule out (the bottom two i don't really like - too 'bra boys' and I don't think the album really is a collection...

i've been thinking over the last few days - we actually have two sites already running that cover things like inform people about gigs, releases etc (myspace) and news/philosophy (this blog). although neither are what you'd call brilliant aesthetic pieces, they actually serve a large part of what people look for on the web at the moment. and they are in places (well, for the moment, the myspace page at least) where people are regularly likely to randomly stumble across it. i don't know that the regular website currently has that kind of exposure. but anyway, my point is, let's just make the telafonica website an artwork, ditch any notion of it being functional in the traditional web sense, and just do whatever we want on it. myspace and blogspot can look after the functionality. if we want to aestheticise those later, we can, but my impression is that the less gloss, the better anyway for those sites, though i do think this blogspot needs something). i'm quit...

I like the idea of something organic to happen in place of the site as we develop the new version. I might try and start on it tomorrow in the spirit of the anzacs. Something playful and direct which I’ll try to tie into the process of developing ideas for album / ep names and artwork etc. T’would be nice to move into a space of seeing and doing with all this stuff, rather than just blogging about it till eternity! I haven’t read this article yet but both cell and I felt thoroughly inspired by the images of this studio space . It’s always been my dream to create such a studio – both functional and beautiful. I like this guys work too! band of the day I’m not sure about the actual song of GEM at this stage. I think it might need some re-thinking. I don’t think it needs to be re-done… just the vocal structure and melody aren’t quite there. In terms of what you’ve done with the production, I’m really loving it. Really loving the rattling bass line and fluttering synth so...

hmmm - i'm beginning to see the idea a bit better. yes - individual little sites that are things in and of themselves, not records of other things. that's exactly how i feel about packaging, which we've discussed lots in the past. this idea fits in very well with that. my only initial concern might be the cost of owning a bunch of different domains... would you be interested in making an initial site focused on one particular thing to get it going? for now we could put that up as the 'telafonica' site, until more are developed. an idea to promote a forthcoming release, or even just an art thing that doesn't specifically relate to telafonica music at the moment? just to get the ideas started. i hadn't imagined that the e.p. would need a title, i kind of just assumed that it would be the title of the lead track - the 'single'. but i'm not opposed to the idea of a separate title. ++++++ i sometimes forget to look at comments, but have got a...

What I love about the Miranda July site is that it illustrates the versatility of good concepts. The execution of the sight flows naturally from the idea… rather than controlling or distorting it. I like the way that the site is used to serve one purpose as you said – I love the idea of making websites as a project in themselves, rather than a platform to present multiple projects / information / products. This kind of thing does exist around the web, but it’s not something I’ ve ever really done. It’s nice because it allows you to do things that would never work in a normal context where flexibility and longevity are such key design factors. The neubau site is integrated with their body of work so nicely. I love the wall of sound approach – I like the way it blurs the line between a site that shows work and a site that is work in itself. I’ ve been doing a lot of thinking about how we could present content on the new telafonica site – trying to decide how much to separate differen...

the neubau site is incredible. there was a feature on the company in the last idn magazine so i had seen some of the work before, but not the site. needless to say i am excited about the upcoming remember/revolver release. don't you want to just publish books, make magazines etc as well as everything else there is to do?!! no-one belongs here... i laughed out loud going through that site, then bec sat down and looked through it and laughed - serves it's purpose incredibly well. it's a fairly narrow purpose, of course, so i'm not sure what we could appropriate from it, but it is a great, original site. the myspace one - yeah... i sent a friend request but didn't get overly excited about the music. maybe i would have 6 months ago, but you can just hear the shelf-life of this stuff winding down. and unless you're one of the originators with something unique to contribute (say, presets, lcd soundsystem etc) what is the point really? it's the indi equi...

http://www.neubauberlin.com/ http://noonebelongsheremorethanyou.com/ no time to say anything about them now - but check it!

This person seems to be gaining some crazy popularity. have you listened? Self described as post electro-clash... funny too. http://www.myspace.com/musclesmusic

i've been e-mailing nick butcher ( www.programmablepress.com ) and he's been incredibly helpful with screenprinting info. i have learned that there are different mesh counts for silkscreen - kind of like resolution, i guess. the stuff he uses for superfine text etc is a 230count, much higher than the mesh i have. so we just need to get some finer mesh to do the fine detail stuff. i've also got a quote from future classic for a deepchild remix. it's a fair bit from our perspective, but probably quite a good price for a remix. i just don't know if it's worth us risking the money on it. it could get a fair bit of publicity and airplay, but who knows? is it worth a large outlay for a name, or are we better off going for folk more at our level, which we can afford (because it's at a remix trade kind of level). i'd possibly have to say i would prefer that, especially if we organise trades, because that then pushes us working as well, rather than just b...

i'm free saturday, monday and either tuesday or wednesday (but i don't know which yet). after that, we're spending a bit of time away. do you want to come around one of those days. back to real blog content. i've been thinking that maybe we should get an e.p. out, featuring a 'single' and some remixes of something we've been working on. if we got a handful of remixes onto cd, it would gear up things like fbi, 2ser etc and give us some time to get the rest of the album together. if we were to do it, what track(s) do you think are possible contenders? fairly obvious is 'this is the new thing', but other contenders may be 'listening in for static' or maybe 'send away' - i'm thinking radio friendly at this point in time. i've also thought perhaps we choose one and have its original version as the lead track, but then get remixes of another track or two, as well as a remix of the 'single', so that it's not just 5 versio...

I absolutely love that line and what it sums up about the dicerning open mindedness of the 4-4-2 approach to music. I am excited about this screen printing. how did you go making up screens this time? are we able to get a higher level of detail on the screen than with the morpheme stuff? be great to try some multi colour stuff. And i really like the photocopy / screen print combo. let's organise a play date.

i've just made a purchase - got any time during the school holidays to come and have a play? (o.k. so now the link doesn't work!! i bought myself (or maybe school, i haven't decided yet, either way, i get to use it) a screen printing clamp thing so it only takes one person to print and you can register everything properly etc.) i'm sensing a loudening call for some kind of content assistance? would that be correct? if you do want to go with telafonica output, should we maybe work from some lyrical starting points? there's a general mood to most of the lyrics i've been writing for this music, not every single thing, but a large enough thing to call it a body - would that be a good starting point? i've almost finished a few print based things that i wouldn't mind showing you soon. i didn't have a problem with the syrup helsinki navigation once i worked it out, but it did take me a little while to work it out. the main problem was when the menus all f...

I'm a little confused as to which part of the syrup nav was hard to negotiate. It seemes pretty straight forward to me. Anyway... i quite like their aesthetic approach. Also they operate in a pretty similar way to what furnitureclub was meant to be... so i guess they're heroes in some way. yep - i am continuing to make pictures, hopefully at a more and more prolific rate. I need to think more about ways to get images off the computer screen and into the world. Telafonica is one area I see as being a key output – so please feel free to input. I’d like to talk to you about doing some more screen printing together… I’m not sure about that line as a title… it’s a nice conceptual reference point. Perhaps something we can expand upon in discussion. Check out this loverly video .